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  • Apr. 14th, 2007 at 11:31 AM
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So, I edit dissertations for a living. The Really Big in-depth book-length research project a person does to earn themselves a Ph.D. (and no, I don't have one of those). The big thing about delving deeply into a project is that you set off with your inquiry, and start by researching your set and setting: who else has thought about this? What have they come up with? and after all that, which might actually be the bulk of a work, you tell how you're going to go about your piece of the puzzle, and show what you did and what you conclude, other questions for future players in the field, and voila, you've added to the Great Conversation.

I also muck about in various fiber arts. I weave, and have made baskets, and know how to do all manner of braiding and fingerweaving (it pays to have grown up with a Serious fiber artist/weaver, and to get to look over her shoulder and try out things at home that she was studying and teaching in the MN weaver's guild), I've been a crocheter since my grandma taught me at the age of 5 or 6, -- and I'm finally learning to knit! That last part is pretty well equally to blame on the good example of my dearling Lise, and the knitting podcasty goodness of Brenda Dayne and our own Violet and her pal Lime.

There's a movement afoot, a grand scheme voice most recently by Brenda Dayne of the Cast-On podcast, to assemble a great library of knitting (and perhaps other fiber arts?) knowledge in a collaborative archival project on the web. This is great - and much discussion and thought about whether to go add in to the knitting sections on Wikipedia, where things might be more in-depth than the Wikipedia really wants to be; whether to deepen the offerings at the Wikia KnitWiki, only these are both currently governed not by a creative commons license deed, which grants some rights to your own copyright work, but by a GNU free document license - which places works into the public domain (as near as I can tell).
A decision was made to go with a creative commons licensed wiki, and one has been set up on a knitting fan's own website, which I'll call Sarah's KnitWiki

All of which endeavors are fine and glorious, and with the popularity of theme podcasts, there are a lot of excited people ready to turn their expertise to co-creation.

My only hesitation, nay concern, is that the new folks coming along aren't doing their "set and setting" background research deeply enough. Why on earth are folks just beginning to re-create the wheel, gathering yarn shop info, for example, when there's been knitting talk online since the days of Fido-net, and places like Wool Works, that compiles all manner of information folks have been collecting since way before 1994, when Emily Way took it to this new format of an html website? Hello, there's already well over 13 years worth (more like 18 years' worth) of already-gathered info here.

I'd love to get, or at least see, the active folks involved in these various projects, talking with one another, and not getting lost each in her own ivory tower. The gifts each person involved in such a project are huge and heartwarming, and like an individual's dissertation, another piece of the puzzle, and an addition to the Great Conversation. We have this great global set o' tools, and can gather and share info; collaborate on a global (for values of "global" that include "online" at least); it would be nice to have the broadest conversation and not repeat/reinvent ourselves so often, even if we can't and maybe don't need to all agree on the copyright status / licensing structure.

Good heavens, after all, there's not even a comprehensive listing of fiber arts guilds in North America. Goethe's Law notwithstanding, it'd be fun to try.

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[info]davesslave wrote:
Apr. 14th, 2007 08:40 pm (UTC)
I think your desire to get people involved in the projects communicating is wonderful! I know you have a lot to contribute.
[info]rutemple wrote:
Apr. 15th, 2007 01:34 am (UTC)
communicaaayshenz
I can at least poke about with my mad research skillz and pull in threads from a broad reach, and say to folks over here that look, here are some more folks over there it would be good to bring together and swap stories...

Plus I seem to have taken on the project of listing (and, why not, illustrating) "101 uses for I-Cord". now, the term, I cord was coined by Saint Elizabeth Zimmermann (a fabulous teacher of my mother's generation; her daughter Meg is apparently a splendid light in the knitting world, this generation, hurrah!) for the string you knit to put from one mitten up through the sleeves of a kid's jacket and down to the other mitten. We called 'emm "idiot mittens" or the "idiot string" when I was a kid... and Lise still grumps to this day that you can't pull on one end and make your brother smack himself in the face with the other end, but that's the flexibility of wool for you! hah.
In any case, there's nearly an infinite number of ways to use a strong, pretty cord (whether knitted on needles or a 4- or 6- peg spool). Ever made any of the stuff?
[info]moderngypsy wrote:
Apr. 14th, 2007 11:13 pm (UTC)
It's by no means comprehensive (as in the Ultimate Comprehensive), but mapmuse.com DOES list knitting guilds and other kinds of fibery guilds, which is at least a good place to start. :)

Have at it! This looks like a good project!
[info]rutemple wrote:
Apr. 15th, 2007 01:26 am (UTC)
mapmuse quick peek
Right on! I'm thinking meta, here, as in making sure to index the current indexers. Thanks for the connect! I'm gonna log my first glance here, just to have it:

So far, searching their database turns up:

knitting / crocheting / yarn shops -- 1752 as of 4/14/07
http://find.mapmuse.com/re1/directory.php?brandID=KNITTING_SHOPS

Knitting / crocheting clubs -- 183 as of 4/14/07; for an example the three listed for Minnesota are the Minnesota Knitter's Guild, an SNB in a western Twin Cities coffeeshop, and a community center (where there are classes) in Duluth. It's a start, and an interestingly broad category.
http://find.mapmuse.com/re1/directory.php?brandID=KNITTING_CLUBS

Spinning and Weaving Shops -- 167 as of 4/14/07
http://find.mapmuse.com/re1/directory.php?brandID=SPIN_WEAVE_SHOPS

and
(someone's been Busy)

Spinning Guilds - a quick 669 of these listed as of 4/14/07
http://find.mapmuse.com/re1/directory.php?brandID=SPIN_GUILDS

There is a list of 453 basket shops (i.e., where to buy baskets? as diff. from where to get basket making supplies, is difficult to tell.)

And of course, I do believe they have the big chains covered under a generic "Crafts" category.

Again, thank you, sweetie!
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